ULI Reiterates Turning City Place Mall Into A Parking Garage
By Silver Springer • Mar 20th, 2007 • Category: Business and Economic DevelopmentFlashback to November 2006 and you may recall the Silver Spring Scene disclosing ULIs recommendation to tear down City Place Mall and turn it into a parking garage, this was in much disagreement with the community. But at a recent meeting discussing a retail strategy for
The Urban Land Institute, the non-profit concerned with responsible land use, presented, “Developing a retail strategy for
Laura Cole, who was executive director at ULI Washington, based in
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So what’s the problem? Well for one, downtown
“Retailers are slow to adopt and adapt to a changing demograpic …
Cole also disclosed that parcel owners unable to assemble smaller lots into larger ones inhibit growth in the CBD. “The lack of capital…the inability for individuals who own these properties to reinvest in them because they don’t know how to do it and increase the lease rates so they can make those types of investmentsâ€.
Not all negative, the presentation noted some of the advantages in Silver Spring, like mass transit, an amiable location within the beltway, abundant parking and
Cole proclaimed that
Electronics and home goods were noted as some of the retail offerings lacking in downtown
There were four key recommendations from ULI,
1.) Broaden the success of Downtown Silver Spring by creating a new vision and marketing plan to guide public improvements, private investment and consumer traffic to branded subdisticts with distinct characteristics and tenant mixes. Work with community stakeholders and promote the vision and plan.
2.) Undertake a program to help define and strengthen the mix and concentration of complementary uses throughout
3.) Set the stage for reinvestment along
4.) Collaborate with the owner of City Place Mall to identify a repositioning or redevelopment strategy that will establish the appropriate tone and co-tenancies required to make existing retail and entertainment sustainable. Strategy should seek synergies and connections with block across the street (on
“[ULI] thought it was important to diversify and upgrade the tenant base…you only need so many hair salons close together.†said Cole.
It was also suggested, removing the tree canopy fronting the historic structures on
Cole reemphasized the importance of a new marketing plan that highlights the unique characteristics of the CBD but cautioned that marketing and branding should not be so specific that it becomes unnatural. “A careful balance is needed”.
City Place Mall
Considered the primary issue in ULI’s report, the mall is the ball and chain holding
To remedy this, ULI offered several scenario’s,
Scenario 1:
Scenario 2 (our all time favorite):
Scenario 3: Connect Scenario 2 with a larger project across
Variables left out of the equation
Perhaps there really isn’t a problem at all? The revitalization of Silver Spring is wildly exceeding expectations of not only the community but developers, what was once thought as a “wasteland†and a “highly risky venture†has some the best performing theatres and stores in the nation, over 6,000 residential units underway or in planning and an office vacancy rate that is the lowest in the entire region. The size of the CBD is also not a liability but an asset. As the largest urban district in the D.C. metro and largest in the State outside Baltimore, Silver Spring has many characteristics equal or surpassing some small to midsize cities like Hartford, CT. The CBD is larger than some major city CBDs in geographical size.
I think a better study (and the bigger issue at hand) would have been to try and determine why there is a lack of office development in the CBD. With such a low vacancy it’s concerning why there is none at all at this point in time. Out of all development types, office space is the most favorable in
Almost a year ago, the Silver Spring Scene first reported about the
As for City Place Mall, I wonder how it stacks up against Ballston Common Mall in the
I applaud and urge for a new marketing plan for the CBD and City Place Mall by respective marketing groups. This would be pivotal to the new office tower that will be by far the largest significant upgrade to the mall since its opening.
I also applaud the use of Transfer Development Rights but question use of the term “Human Scaleâ€, what does that mean? You can build up to 200’feet in some parts of downtown
I highly advise against giving any monetary incentives (any form for that matter) from the County trying to entice retail in the CBD. Retail has little control of where it wants to go, you can’t force it in. It is dependent on residence and jobs. It needs to be said once again that the lack of office development in CBD is telling; if any incentives have to be given that is where it should go. If there was more office development in
Finally, this is slightly off topic but it has to be pointed out; how can a non-profit organization founded on the principals of responsible land use be based in Reston, Va.; a sprawling environmentally damaging, greenfield master planned development in the exurbs of D.C. metro area. Not next to any form of mass rail transit, it has exacerbated suburban sprawl all the way to
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Do you guys think part of City Place’s problems may be the ownership (Georgelas)? Their retail portfolio looks CRAPPY!
http://www.georgelasgroup.com/retailportfolio.htm
Cole also disclosed that parcel owners unable to assemble smaller lots into larger ones inhibit growth in the CBD. “The lack of capital…the inability for individuals who own these properties to reinvest in them because they don’t know how to do it and increase the lease rates so they can make those types of investmentsâ€.
This lady doesn’t sound like she cares for small business owners. Increase lease rates, I wonder who will be able to afford those rates surely not those “so many hair salons close together”
I wonder why she has an issue with it? Are those business owners asking her for money? Are they illegally doing business? Haven’t majority of them been able to sustain their business for well over decades? why is it an issue? It is because it’s not white enough? or maybe not up to reston va or bethesda md standards?
News flash SS is hot because of the cultural diversity, it’s the reason why many have flocked here, both retail and residential. Stop trying to change what’s already good. No we don’t want another cookie cutter city. I recommend that the ULI go back to Reston VA, I’m sure there are plenty of woods in VA to cut down and accomplish their agenda.
NO thank you ULI.. NIMBY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That last post was comical. The ULI is saying what’s best for SS to continue to grow and diversify, including what’s best for small businesses to succeed south of the newer development. It’s very true that there is a vast untapped market of upper middle and upper class people who live in and around the downtown area and in East/Northeast SS. Luckily the ULI isn’t at all composed of NIMBYs and realizes that well-known chain stores scattered throughout a sea of small businesses brings more foot traffic and helps the small businesses succeed.
Okay, so, what was the conclusion of the report?
There were 4. Scroll up. The great thing about the report is that it is largely un-PC (probably due to the fact that the ULI is not a political organization), something that is greatly needed when discussing the retail establishments in large swaths of downtown.
I also love their conclusion of trying to brand different parts of downtown. Over on Silver Spring Penguin there was a vote on what to call the part of downtown south of the new development and the choice was the “Firehouse District”. That type of branding will help people unfamiliar with the downtown area better associate with its different regions. With a CBD of this size (same size geographically as Philly), it’s almost necessary.
“Luckily the ULI isn’t at all composed of NIMBYs and realizes that well-known chain stores scattered throughout a sea of small businesses brings more foot traffic and helps the small businesses succeed.”
Pennster I’ve pretty much agreed with you on many things, but this one I don’t. I’m not even a NIMBY but I felt it was fitting to say it lol. My issue is that small business owners are being targetted when the ULI is suggesting increasing lease rent, and on another note referencing that fact that there are too many hair salons. I don’t see how putting the two together she and her org are trying to “help” small business owners. But maybe she’s just not trying to help “certain” SBOs.
I can see it now the new SS will look just like reston and bethesda instead of all types of minority shops we have euro shops, similar ones on every corner. Same situation just different demographics, oh what fun. But I guess the definition of diversity isn’t universal.
The County needs to stop funding these studies from ULI, their recommendations aren’t quite up to par. City Place is sucessful but appeals to different “demographics.” ULI can’t seem to figure out what to do with the dire situation in Fenton Village. I think the County should assemble some parcels in the superblocks to attract a few big box stores like Wegmans, Target, Home Depot, and Costco and create a “power center” that attracts some traffic to Fenton Village creating a “retail crescent” that would establish Silver Spring as a regional retail destination.
No no no superblocks! No target in Silver Spring. There’s already one on Viers Mills and another one soon opening on 15th St in DC.